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What did you learn from the internet

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Re: What did you learn from the internet

Postby Steve_Pickering » Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:07 am

I remember what a nightmare 3:20PM and 5:00PM was everyday before we got our T-1
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Re: What did you learn from the internet

Postby Orygun BOFH » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:59 am

The biggest failure we're likely to see has less to do with reaching circuit capacity and more to do with exhausting all available IPv4 addresses since service providers/end-users see no financial benefit in going to IPv6.

We'll have TONS of people behind crappy NAT routers that break things like VOIP. Service providers will have thousands of users sharing a few public IPs, and all it takes is one idiot or infected customer to get it blocked/filtered/blacklisted at various web and email hosts. We're already seeing this happen with smaller wireless ISPs who NAT all of their users. :(
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Re: What did you learn from the internet

Postby Steve_Pickering » Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:22 pm

VOIP, another waste of bandwidth.
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Re: What did you learn from the internet

Postby Orygun BOFH » Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:46 pm

More efficient than PRI/TDM! Well, at least with the right codec it is.

Rather than all of this analog/digital mix that everyone has right now, I'd rather see everything in IP. Imagine if TV and telephone are all encapsulated in an IP stream (say, using VLANs to ensure QoS) to the service provider?

Or in an HFC network, what if each had their own DOCSIS modem using an upstream/downstream channel as required? Or better yet one DOCSIS 3.0 modem that can bond another channel as the need arises (when Internet/telephone/TV usage increases)? Imagine no analog channels, and simply streaming everything to TV's using relatively inexpensive converter boxes. Could make MUCH more efficient use of the CATV wire without having to carry a ton of analog TV channels. Analog sucks! :D

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Re: What did you learn from the internet

Postby Steve_Pickering » Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:05 am

All entertain, but do little to further research.
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Re: What did you learn from the internet

Postby Orygun BOFH » Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:19 pm

Depends on the content of the telephone call/television programming (and the same could be said for this forum, or any other social medium for that matter).

While research and development to benefit humanity is a noble cause, entertainment as a form of relaxation is a valuable asset too. :)
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Re: What did you learn from the internet

Postby Steve_Pickering » Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:40 am

Today I learned the normal air in most cites should be labeled as unfit for human consumption.
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Re: What did you learn from the internet

Postby Returning Soon » Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:02 am

Orygun BOFH wrote:The biggest failure we're likely to see has less to do with reaching circuit capacity and more to do with exhausting all available IPv4 addresses since service providers/end-users see no financial benefit in going to IPv6.

We'll have TONS of people behind crappy NAT routers that break things like VOIP. Service providers will have thousands of users sharing a few public IPs, and all it takes is one idiot or infected customer to get it blocked/filtered/blacklisted at various web and email hosts. We're already seeing this happen with smaller wireless ISPs who NAT all of their users. :(


I know Verizon was going to do IPV6 testing on with their FIOS this year. At least one company is moving forward.
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Re: What did you learn from the internet

Postby Steve_Pickering » Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:14 am

Not really .......................
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Re: What did you learn from the internet

Postby Webby » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:46 am

IPV6 is happening and will be there when it's needed so I don't see that as a convern. VOIP is a good solution for many things and POTS is a huge boondoggle that many a city / county etc are going to have to address.

The downside to using the internet in a much broader fashion is that it truely will become so much that a failure will be catestrophic. It's already close to that but in 5 years it will be even worse off.
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